SC Conference Call Minutes
C*UUYAN Steering Committee Conference Call
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
Present: Andrew Mertz, Linnea Huston, Liz Weber (Facilitator), Sadie Kahn-Greene, Tom Bozeman
Agenda:
• GA YAC Funding
• Sponsored organization check in
• Summer conferences check in
• YAMO Training check in
• Fall meeting dates
Decisions:
• Allocate an additional $500 for a total thus far of $1000 committed to the GA Young Adult Caucus
• We will discuss C*UUYAN support of the YAC further at our Fall Meeting
• TB will communicate our concerns for YAC’s sustainability to DM and RF
• Fall meeting to be held either Dec 19-21 or Nov 22 weekend in Boston
Continuing discussions for email:
• Summer conferences
Action items:
• TB will tell DM and RF that SC has allocated $1000 to the GA YAC for 2009, and will continue their discussion about YAC and sustainable funding sources
• LW will set Fall Meeting date and inform SC of which weekend by the evening of Sunday, Oct 12
Minutes
Check-in
GA YAC fund allocation
TB: I talked to each of you individually about general YAC stuff. I’m not getting a lot of direction from Royal and Danny b/c we haven’t really established how we’re working together and the relationship of YAC and C*UUYAN. Those are important conversations that need to happen in person, so I’m excited about discussing that at Fall Meeting. That seems like it will be late, though, and DM and RF would like to know what their funding is sooner, really ASAP. Propose agreeing on a set amount that we can up later if we want to. Propose $1000. Partly because there are lots of really wonderful places that YAC could go with or without our help but I would like to move towards us having as mutually beneficial of a relationship as possible. I think it would be a good way of throwing our support in. And there could even be some kind of strings attached in terms of how we want the money spent, etc. That involvement doesn’t have to be just giving money—I think it would be really good for us to have a good, strong presence at YAC this summer.
AM: I like maybe $500 w/o strings attached and another 500 or 1000 with strings: this must be used for certain type of program or something that is in line with C*UUYAN’s mission and what we’re trying to accomplish.
LH: Clarifying question: Was there an amount they’ve asked for, or are those numbers TB came up with?
TB: They have a list of things they would like to do and they asked for some amounts for that. The other things they most want to do are: picnic for community building (guess $300?), bridging celebration ($500?), travel and expenses for three staff. Their current funding might cover the staff. There is more they want: guest speaker, subsidize YA food somehow (unsure how), evening entertainment activities (free or not?).
LH: I’m feeling good about TB’s and AM’s suggestions. $500 or 1000 to start. I do like the idea of starting from one place and possibly adding more later. I feel good about that.
SKG: I like the proposal. Just to clarify, the extra $1000 would go above and beyond travel, picnic, and bridging?
TB: If we give $1000 total, that would go toward bridging and picnic and maybe other stuff.
SKG: So money they have now covers…
TB: T&E
SKG: I support the $1000 for those recommendations. I also like the idea of subsidizing food for YAs. I’m not sure if that should come from our pot, if it addresses our vision, or if it should come from elsewhere, but I like the idea.
LW: I like the idea of giving them maybe $1000 now so they have something to start with. I know they did not get what they had hoped for from GAPC this year, and know that any extra funding we can contribute would be appreciated. I think opening the discussion again during Fall Meeting is a good idea, especially b/c we may have a better idea then of our budget for the year. I heard $1000 or $1500. Let’s discuss that amount then discuss whether there should be any requirements for how we want that money used.
AM: Either, prefer $1000, but either’s fine.
LH: $1500 is good.
SKG: $1500 or 1000.
TB: $1500, would prefer 1000 because I feel like it gives us more room to add on later, after we talk about it more fully.
LW: $1000 now is something that they can start to plan with, which we can up later. Consensus for SC decisions, so can we hear concerns around $1000?
LH: I said $1500 thinking more in terms of… I thought the question was what are we thinking overall, because I think $1000 now and then most likely another $500 later. Maybe in time they might figure out goals that we have that we might want to recommend that the additional $500 be put toward. I’m not sure I’m out of agreement with the group b/c I understood the question differently. Fine with $1000 now.
SKG: Also cool with $1000 now and adding more later.
LW: Ask for consensus to give GA YAC $1000 now and also discuss the decision more at Fall Meeting.
AM: Yes
LH: Yes
SKG: Yes
TB: Yes
LW: Yes. Consensus. TB, are you comfortable conveying that info to DM and RF?
TB: Yes
LW: Initial thoughts about having any recommendations or requests for how the $1000 be used.
AM: I think it would be nice to give $500 with no strings attached and another $500 with a broad restriction. Something like furthering the relationships among YAs. It can be vague and something that they would probably use it for anyway, but it would be a good follow-up.
LH: I think the first $1000 I would feel comfortable letting them run with that. It sounds like they have quite a bit of a plan that all sounds like it’s good. And for us, it would be good to think about maybe a goal that our group or C*UUYAN would have for GA, in regards to YAC, that might be influential for them for another $500 that we might give them.
SKG: Agree with LH about giving them the initial $1000 based on their request for what they want to use that money for. I think adding strings attached is something we would decide later (at the meeting).
TB: I’m okay with either of the proposals so far but my preference would be to have some sort of broadly defined “string.” Whether that be something as general as what AM was saying or just specifying the things they proposed stuff for and that our expectation is that it be used for what they asked for it, or something more structured like, “We will give you funding for the following activities up to $1000,” or even matching funds. But my preference would be for some sort of acknowledgment of what we’re giving them the money for.
LW: I’m fine without strings attached. I feel like they’ve given us a clear list priorities and I trust that they will use the money to further the purposes of the YAC, whether the exact activities are feasible or not. I heard mixed voices, so let’s go around again.
AM: Haven’t changed but am not really strongly attached to having the strings attached.
LH: Opinion is the same. I do see the value in saying that we assume they will do A, B, and C with this money because that’s why they requested it. But again, my opinion is what I said the last round.
SKG: I don’t feel strongly either way, so I could go either way.
TB: I like your suggestion or at least what I got from it of just kind of having a general statement of the intent of it. I think that would be good as a statement to them and also as a statement of the C*UUYAN position in regards to the YAC going forward.
LW: Think that was AM’s suggestion. [restated my opinion] Based on what I’ve heard, can first agree that we aren’t going to have specific requirements (i.e. money is to be used for picnic, evening entertainment, and bridging celebration)?
AM: Yes
LH: Yes
SKG: Yes
TB: Yes. I like the second option you said of we would like it to be used for things other than staff T&E.
LW: Yes. Let’s go around and say a preference for (1) no strings attached, (2) stating the money is for YAC activities, or (3) something a bit more specific like stating that they money is for YAC activities above and beyond staff T&E.
AM: General strings. I like the idea of it being not for T&E, for general YAC expenses, but I’m not strongly committed to that.
LH: Leaving it open, but I am not wedded to that.
SKG: Agree with AM but could go either way.
TB: I have a moderately strong preference to specify that it go towards programming.
LW: Do you have a sense that the YAC budget right now will cover T&E for 3 staff, without our contribution, which is I believe $3000.
TB: There is enough for 2, but beyond that I’m not sure.
LW: Given that info, I would really recommend giving $1000 with no strings attached. It may be that they would feel like they could put on a better YAC with 3 staff fully reimbursed than with 2 staff working hard to put on programming that was paid for. I would want to leave that to their discretion to work out. Also, since it’s money for YAC, it’s implicit that the money is going to be used to better the YAC somehow—I’m not as concerned about how. Have any opinions changed knowing their budget constraints?
AM: I don’t want to tax two folks, but I think the money for a third would be better spent for having programming. Like the money could be used for a staff person who will be wholly devoted to programming. I think there are a lot of volunteers who are likely to go. I would like to have the strings attached.
LH: Agree with LW. I’m feeling on the side of erring more in their discretion and what they think is necessary.
SKG: I don’t feel strongly either way.
TB: I guess I should have explained a little more earlier that my reasoning for wanting it to go towards programming is that I trust their discretion but I think that specifically because there isn’t a history of C*UUYAN funding them and there won’t necessarily be a future of that. So for me it’s a statement of “We support you… but for your own sustainability, it would be better if you also looked elsewhere for funding.”
LW: SC has never directed how that money is used for other conferences. We’ve always allocated and had it be up to the conference deans or chairs how it is budgeted out. On the other hand, we don’t have a history or necessarily a future with GA YAC in terms of funding. So would it allay your concerns, TB, to say “Here’s $1000 for the betterment of GA YAC. Know that it may be a one-time contribution.” ???
TB: I want it to be clear that we think they should be moving towards their own sustainability because it’s unclear where C*UUYAN will be in coming years and I don’t want the relationship to be too overly fluid before we’ve had a chance to talk about how it is or could be.
AM: I don’t need to block consensus. I’m fine. I think we have bigger concerns.
LW: Can we give $1000 and ask TB to craft a statement around sustainability?
AM: Yes
LH: Yes
SKG: Yes
TB: Sure
LW: Yes. Consensus. Anything else around this for the time being?
No
Sponsored organization discussion
LW: I wanted to bring this up because Spons Org is the relationship with the UUA and specifically the YAMO, and I was wondering whether we wanted to talk with folks on the UUA Board about it if there’s an opportunity during their meeting next weekend. (I’m going to part of it that Karina can’t attend and would be available for more if need be.) I think that the right approach is to talk with Nancy and Erik first, but I also see the opportunity to open discussion with the BOT. Thoughts? Anything for me to bring to that meeting?
AM: Take good notes and if there’s something about the discussion around the resolution of support for YaYA ministry… pay special attention to that.
LH: For me it was really helpful to get that factual history. It’s changed a lot of my opinions. I’ve been meaning to write you guys an email about that. I still mean to because it’s late and I don’t want to start rambling.
SKG: Agree. One thing that jumped out at me is the letter from Sept 2006 and my understanding is that we haven’t responded to that. I think that should be a major thing we work on next. But not at the meeting, just based on my reading.
AM: I would say yes it’s true that we haven’t responded with a like letter, but the office has been with us through our visioning and everything, so they’re fully aware that the visioning and the steps we’ve been taking for the last year or longer are so we can fully answer that letter.
TB: I don’t have anything in particular. Still reviewing the docs and look fwd to talking about them.
Summer conferences check in
LW: Since time is late, I just want to really ask everyone to please read the email I sent and respond to it. We really need to get discussion rolling on this.
YAMO Training check in
LW: LH, TB, and LW are going. Does anyone have questions about the event that I might be able to answer? Or anything folks who aren’t going want us to bring?
AM: No. Learn some good stuff; I wish I could be there.
LH: I don’t really know what to expect, but I haven’t been to an actual training per se before, so I’m looking fwd to it.
SKG: If there’s time during the training when you’re working together, I’m comfortable with you coming up with ideas and working together and some good stuff for C*UUYAN might come up so I invite you to see what might happen and then come back and let us know.
TB: Yeah, don’t know what to expect.
SKG: Wondering if it would be helpful to have the pre-GA meeting minutes at the meeting?
LH will download from uuyan.org so they’re on hand.
LW: Excited that there are three of us going. I would add that we need to keep in mind to speak in one voice. That it’s great to vision, brainstorm, etc, but that we need to be mindful of speaking as one.
AM: I’m less concerned with that with this group b/c it’s professionals, but just like a senator is always seen as a senator no matter where he is or what he’s saying. But also do speak from your experience and express more but be mindful of how and what you say that will reflect on C*UUYAN.
Fall meeting dates
LW: Hold Dec 19-21. May be able to do Nov 22 weekend. Will let everyone know which date by Sunday pm.
Set next conference call
Wed 10/22, 9:30 pm
Check-out
